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      • Jbl 4412 vs l100 May 3, 2007 · L-100 gets my vote, but it's based on my bias for that original JBL sound. 6mm wider. I have a pair of 4412 and I would never trade them for a pair of Devialet: they are not even close, and bass extension has nothing to do with it. Its body is 209. Nov 3, 2012 · The L100 has more "classic" value and usually sells for more, but is an older speaker using older tech components compared to the L112. 5mm taller and 93. Forums Jul 1, 2020 · This prompted me to look into the current JBL offerings and wondering what the difference would be between the 4312c and a fresh pair of L-100 Classics, other than the $4K outlay I would have to do. e. Actually, I think JBL out did themselves in the build quality department with these guys Nov 10, 2010 · JBL L100 Classic Black Edition. Modeled on the best-selling JBL L100 Classic, the limited edition JBL L100 Classic 75 is a testimonial to the groundbreaking engineering and thoughtful design displayed by JBL over the last 75 Aug 9, 2016 · Both run the same woofer as the L100 Century and both run it wide-open with no filter or network. Oct 3, 2016 · The same mid and tweeter were used on many JBL models including the L100T/L100t3 as well as the 4410 and 4412 Studio Monitors which are very highly regarded. Was great for all types of music. 4412A, 250ti, L100 Sep 15, 2016 · The L100 and 4311 are similar to each other; both have older mids, paper-cone tweeters, and woofers with alnico magnets. I have had L166's for years, and love them. The document has been permanently moved. Oct 12, 2015 · The L112/4412 can over-emphasize LF range though barrier reinforcement caused by poor placement. They have the exact same drivers as the JBL 4412 which nearly no one considers cheap. 4412/A, the 128H and 128H-1 perform the same. L100. May 29, 2011 · Modern JBL S38 vs Vintage JBL L100, 4311, and Similar Others 4411, 4412 and/or 4412A were intended for horizontal use. Thread starter mamlinar; Start date Oct 26, 2024; M. The jubals are beautiful airy wonderful things. Mar 15, 2014 #1 Jun 11, 2012 · Because they aren't cheap, they were over $1000 new in the later 80's, and they are not very easy to find. Therefore, many of the older JBL speakers have reverse polarity, while newer models match what has become the industry standard. The 4412 is known for its Oct 18, 2012 · JBL L110 vs 4412. Size of a speaker can sometimes become an important decision factor due to space constraints or in some cases purely for esthetic reasons. Thread starter kaliph11; Start date Jul 30, 2009; K. I was a authorized JBL repair tech back around 1976 and sold and repaired lots of L-100's and the pro studio model, the 4311. 5 x 389. 5 feet at a 2-meter distance from the microphone, and the measurements were gated at a 9-millisecond delay. Feb 12, 2022 · I've heard the JBLs and the original l100. Jul 11, 2011 · 4410'erne spiller rigtigt fedt, men sat op mod 4412'eren kan 4412'eren lige den der smule ekstra - i min optik. The Decade series was designed to compete at specific pricepoints. Plus a recone of the mids (tape covering hole Sep 16, 2017 · Not that I need to defend myself to you but I've had JBLs in my home for coming up on 60-years. Later versions of the 4312 used Titanium Dome tweeters, just like the L100T, 4412, etc. I have the option to buy a pair of JBL 4412 (not the 4412A) for 6000SEK which is around $640. The 035ti tweeter is very good but can come off as a bit bright on some speakers. Aug 7, 2019 · JBL L100 Classic Speakers. Always alot of rockers blowing out that paper cone tweeter with small power receivers cranked way past the clipping point of their units. 3 x 14. R3 Meta has a rear firing port whereas L100 Classic has a front firing ports. Wester New Member. Grâce à son grand haut-parleur de grave de 30 cm de diamètre couplé à un tweeter à dôme titane et un médium de 125 mm, cette enceinte offre une reproduction En JBL 4412 og for den sags skyld 4412a er jo bar vidre udviklinger af den originale L-100 og 4312 højttaler der er under JBL`s pro afdeling, og i denne bruger man mest tid på at regne og måle sig frem til et resultat, der bliver ikke lagt så mange øre til ”det jo en studio monitor” der skal Eq på i et studie så power handling og JBL L100 Classic MKII has external dimensions of 636. Jan 24, 2015 · Heresy vs JBL 4410. Apr 4, 2022 · The JBL specs show 90dB sensitivity for the 4412 and 89dB for the 4412A with the A listing a much broader frequency response than the 4412 but the measuring method used on the A is +/- 10dB with +/-2dB on the 4412. if you can ever find a pair the 4412's it seems to me might bring the mid and high end of the Apr 21, 2009 · JBL describes the L16 and L26 in a 1974 brochure as "economy and beauty in compact bookshelf loudspeakers". Imaging is top notch. Support has nosedived post Samsung I've heard. Dec 16, 2019 · Whereas a year earlier, JBL announced the L100 Classics (themselves based on the L100 Century home speaker), CES 2019 saw JBL take the wraps off the 4312G. So it makes sense to compare the new JBL L100 Classic MKII (aka MK2) both to other current loudspeakers in the same price range as well as to the For all intents and purposes they are the same speaker (UNLESS they are the FIRST L100 incarnation with the drivers arranged on the baffle in a vertical alignment) The vertical L100 has a different Alnico magnet tweeter, an earlier version of the 123A series of woofers and an entirely different network which includes two inductors, some resisters and caps of values which differ from all JBL SHOWDOWN: L100 Century vs 4311 vs 4312 I genuinely just want to hear everyone’s opinion on this topic! I currently have a set of L100’s (currently being repaired and restored STILL) and 4311’s and am wondering if the 4312 are different enough to merit the investment into yet another set of iconic speakers. Start date Apr 15, 2012; Rob. Also worth looking at the L166, 4412, 4411, 4311, etc to see how they’ve tweaked the 12” 3-way design for various applications over the years. Moreover, 4412's are supposed to be oriented horizontally, so it would sit nicely above my computer monitor (my desk is against the wall). I know the L100 can sound harsh and has a nice boost in low end that the rockers like. JBL L52 Classic has external dimensions of 332. The price was a mere $150 for the two pairs. But I think the intention, besides saving the cost of the pads, is like that with the LSR 32's. ) I currently have a set of L100’s (currently being repaired and restored STILL) and 4311’s and am wondering if the 4312 are different enough to merit the investment into yet another set of iconic speakers. No huge midrange peak like the 4312, but not as flat as the 4412 either. My question is, as a music lover with entry level knowledge on home audio equipment, are either of these sets suitable Feb 2, 2022 · Yea, the L100 engineering of the crossover was definitely less than JBL's best effort. i've done a search on this topic and can't find anything too detailed. 2021년에 나온 75라는 모델은 매우 특별하다. AK Secret Santa 2024 and Christmas VOA charity are here. The 4411/4412/L112 run the much better 128H and 128H-1 woofer with a more sophisticated network and a flatter response. I spent at least what you did on replacement tweeter diaphragms, not to mention the new grilles that JBL still had in stock for some reason, although when they arrived they said 4412 on the front. At one time 8 out of 10 studios used 4311's so chances are that rock album you want to listen to was mixed with 4311's. Oct 11, 2021 · On the 4312G vs L100 Classic, from what I've read the 4312G seems like a similarly voiced speaker but made to a lower cost point, the cabinet finish and grills are geared to a studio look vs. If you like that kind of emphasis then you can get much more LF from the 12-inch 128H and H-1 than the 123 was ever capable of. 0 x 180. 4 user reviews on JBL 4411 it has volumes MODL then under the dnomination 4412 in two versions. The L5 uses the 035Ti tweeter also, but that is where any driver similarities end. JBL L100 Classic – this was a fun comparison. The L100 has more nostalgia value for many, and is generally more collectable. Dec 8, 2016 · This new L100 is quite different from the original and probably closer in sound to a 4412 or LSR6332 than to a L100 or 4310. The 044 tweeter is "softer" than the titanium in the 4412s but some find the older design less irritating to listen to for extended periods. Not for me. I recently rebuilt the 4311 with new precision dayton caps / L pads. Aug 2, 2020 · Never heard this reissue, but given the crossover layout and woofer choice they are probably much closer to a 4412/L112 than to a L100. 301 Moved Permanently . Thread starter Wester; Start date Jan 31, 2011; W. May 19 Mar 25, 2011 · JBL L-100 & L-150 with images! Need your help with mid driver & model type! I picked up a pair of each of these speakers yesterday. Whereas there were only cosmetic, and no aural, differences between the 4311 and the L-100, I don't know what the differences were between the 4311 and the 4312, though I suspect the overall differences were small. Mar 17, 2007 · I find it slightly warmer than the 4412, which can be so clinically accurate as to be perceived as "dry. The later versions constitute a much more modern speaker IMO. 6 x 16. JBL L100 Speaker Stands (Custom Made New)L100, 4311, 4312, 4411, 4412 Apr 15, 2012 · JBL L100 vs JBL 4310 Monitors. What could one expect using L-166 with a 50w/ch Mac vs 4311. Since the L100 Classic design was restricted to being placed in a cabinet originally designed in the 1970's, but that did not seem to affect the sound quality. 5k/7. 9inch) . The L112 uses the 044 dome tweeter while the L100 uses an older paper cone tweeter. May 3, 2021 · JBL L100 Classic Bookshelf Loudspeaker Measurements & Conclusion. 0 x 199. Feb 15, 2010 · JBL 4311B vs. Jan 3, 2006 #1 Hi all, after selling some stuff on craigslist, ive Sep 20, 2024 · JBL SA750 Integrated Amplifier Read More 1/7/2021 News Still Blown Away After All These Years: JBL Launches 75th Anniversary Edition of L100 Loudspeaker. JBL L300. The JBL 4312G is principally inspired by the 4310 family of professional studio monitors that came into prominence during the early 1970s. L100T. JBL 4312 vs 4312A vs 4412. 6 x 371. I came across a pair of these Pioneer's a few years ago as part of a system purchase steal. This 12-inch (300mm) 3-way bookshelf loudspeaker features upgraded JBL acoustic components to improve the sound quality of this Classic loudspeaker. , a bit of boost at the frequency extremes, where our hearing is weakest. and check out L100 Classic, 4307, 4429. Feb 28, 2012 · The JBL L-100 Century is JBLs most famous vintage speaker from the 1970ies and is an absolute classic. the prob is im quite confused with the many variations of JBL L100 Classic's Five-way gold-plated binding posts terminals Physical Specs . Jan 16, 2022. Mar 29, 2012 #13 Hey! I have some questions about the JBL 4412 and I can't find answers from googling. Thanks. Today I own over a dozen pairs of JBLs including 030, L100, 4412, L26, L112, L96, L150A, L80T, L1, L3, L5, L7, 250Ti, LSR305, ProIII+, in addition to my beloved 4345 "clones". Apr 18, 2016 · Bottom line is these speakers are fantastic, and you cannot go wrong, i also own the JBL 4412 with the 12 inch and the differences are subtle. The 4412A has the 052TIA tweeter and no pots. ) L100 inline L100 offset L100A (early) L100A (late) That said, the L100=L100A=4310=4311 (mostly) Feb 1, 2011 · JBL 4312 vs 4312A vs 4412. The L100 Classic MkII is the next evolution in the reborn legend that is the JBL Classic Series. Modeled on the best-selling JBL L100 Classic, the limited edition JBL L100 Classic 75 is a testimonial to the groundbreaking engineering and thoughtful design displayed by JBL over the last 75 Mar 16, 2014 · JBL L100T vs. JBL L100 Classic is clearly the Jan 4, 2006 · JBL L100 vs. The cabinet in the 4412 is too small for the 12" woofer. True, the ported L-100 will produce more rolling bass for rock and roll but it is not accurate. Maybe they are talking more of the 4312/4412 series which used similar midrange and Ti tweeters combined with 12" woofers of the 128H variety. Oct 30, 2021 · JBL doesn't make any new speaker called the "L100". So a friend of mine was over the other day and we got to talking and I mentioned I was looking for a set of the older jbl's. Oct 26, 2024 the bass output from my bookshelf 4412 was horrible Mar 26, 2013 · I am looking for all opinions/observations regarding the differences or similarities regarding the characteristics of these speakers. Sep 20, 2024 · Fast forward fifty years, and JBL brought the L100 back with the 2019 release of the reborn L100 Classic, staying true to the original while adding some modern touches. Quite excited. 5mm shorter and 45. Then it was quickly replaced by the 4412 using the new titanium tweeters. 00. 3 KB Oct 2020: If any of the links above result in strange characters in your browser, please right-click Dec 27, 2018 · hi everyone im thinking of getting a used pair of jbl 4312 or 4311. JBL L166 Horizons vs JBL L112. I always remembered the nice clean sound and in my memory they were no comparsion to my current cf120's. Feb 24, 2009 · Hi Guys, I was wondering what people think of the L166 vs the L100 in terms of sound quality. The speaker you are probably talking about is the "L100 Classic". really love the sound of these speakers just that the low end is missing. I would expect the L5 to have a sound between that of the 4312 and 4412. The 100's are just damn sexy looking speakers and would fit well into the decor. The sound is accurate and realistic. The 4412 tweeter was dimpled and the JBL engineer told me it measured 10% THD on axis. 6inch) whereas KEF Q150 has external dimensions of 303. Some (me included) think it is slightly better balanced than the larger 4412. Among the biggest differences are the tweeter. vintageboy; Nov 24, 2018; Speakers Jan 6, 2020 · I've owned an assortment of JBL's including the L100, own an assortment of east coast speakers including Advents, and have listened to the HPM-100. Oct 28, 2022 · I got them years ago at like 200$ and sold my JBL L110 for almost 600$. They feature 3 drivers: a 12" bass-driver, 5" midrange driver and a Dome tweeter. . Thread starter Magnetmaz; Start date 2015-01-24 I though you designed the 4411, and then Greg Timbers designed the 4412/4410/4408/4406 ? Sep 12, 2023 · JBL SA750 Integrated Amplifier Read More 1/7/2021 News Still Blown Away After All These Years: JBL Launches 75th Anniversary Edition of L100 Loudspeaker. Oct 26, 2024 · JBL L100T3 vs 120ti. Anyone who heard both, please post your responses. There are several other sites that catalog the history of the 4310 and how they evolved into the 4311 & later the L100. The 4311 seems to image ok. I thought that be by keeping the L100's, I would Apr 21, 2009 · The JBl 104h2 or 3 subbed for the LE5 solves a lot of the sonic complaints heard in the 4310/ L 100 series and the Judal also …comparison of the two midranges on the Lansing Forum showed the frequency response differences. The price you see, is for a set of Walnut Stands (2pcs). Apr 11, 2011 · I have always remembered and wanted a pair of the older JBL's (L100's-4312's similar, etc). Jul 30, 2009 #1 is there any meaningful difference between these Nov 18, 2019 · They're a little utilitarian, I had them and the 4410A and before that it was the 4312A. After selling my Technics SB-7000, I want to buy Yamaha NS-1000M I would wait for a JBL 4412 or 4412A or Feb 21, 2009 · The 4412/A is the gold-standard in JBL monitors and the L112 is a superb home version from an earlier day. Then just these 2 months alone I managed to find these sets on the cheap. 2018년 하만 카돈이 삼성에 인수된 이후 발표된 L100 클래식은 숱한 화제를 모았으며, 덕분에 고급 버전도 당연히 출시되었다. But in researching them, I found out that they spec out very close to the 4312E. These are the replacements for the 4412s or the L100, though flat black. 6inch) . They served me well for a long time, yet I always preferred the ADS sound and now that I have a hoard of ADS's, the JBL's have been relegated to lesser sound environments, the l100's are with my oldest son at his place, along with a pair of L-26 decades which I gifted him when he Jul 30, 2009 · JBL L100 vs L100a. From a technical perspective, the L100T3 is better than anything from the older L100 series in basically every Dec 29, 2024 · Re: JBL 4412 or 4411? « Reply #5 on: July 14, 2010, 08:50:23 AM » Sounds like its not too terrible a project maybe a bit spendy, but most probably worth the dosh. 0 x 278. No consumer version uses that combo. What your choice between jbl l 166 or jbl l-100 century? Zonker92 All shiny and chrome. Point is, your experience with the 4312a might not necessarily give you a great idea of what to expect from an L100 or 4311. I wish I could find these cheap. Typically, for a 2 way speaker, the woofer will receive full frequency from 20 hz - 500-3000 hz (depending on the woofer), and the tweeter takes over where the woofer goes away. People bring up this debate time and time again. 5mm less deeper than Wharfedale Dovedale but it is also 19. thanks Jan 18, 2010 · The older in-line L100 (and the 4310) is smoother and more natural throughout the midrange than the later off set L100 and it's 4311 counterpart. I even started a fan of JBL, the 4311 and L100 begin tease me Jul 27, 2014 · 4312 (no letter) used paper cone tweeters, much like the L100. Apr 15, 2012 #1 Jan 23, 2018 · In fact, that’s industrial grade understatement: the 4310 practically invented the near-field monitor (prior to the 4310, studio monitoring were all ‘soffit’ or ‘in-wall’ designs, and even if the BBC can also lay claim to producing free-standing near-field monitoring options, their loudspeakers were hard to find outside of a BBC Nov 5, 2020 · As said, the L100T series does not have much in common with the L100 series aside from the fact that they were both made by JBL and are both 3-way speakers. 9 x 7. Jun 1, 2023 · I was a professional recording engineer for 34 years and used lots of JBL studio monitors. Not the L166, L100, 4311 For sale are beautiful Custom Walnut Speaker stands for your JBL 4412,4410, 4312, 4311, 4310 speakers! They are made of super durable Walnut Hardwood. Oh, and I had to refoam them too. The L36 is more similar to the L100 than the L110 at least in the midrange and Jul 9, 2014 · Now if you are going to stick to heavy metal, I suppose the JBL's would be ok, but heavy metal gets pretty old after a while. Mystery; May 29, 2013; Dollars and Sense JBL L100 Classic MKII Key Specs. The 4412s will let you hear exactly what your system is lacking, and bad recordings will sound like ass. JBL L100 vs 4312 vs 4312A. Not my opinion, a fact. a living room look, which happens to be cheaper to produce. JBL L100 Classic is 23. Which is a "better?" I know the 4312 is mirrored but why isn't it as popular as the 4311. asmneto Active Member. The L36 uses the LE5-6, which is actually very good also and probably the best component in the L36 system (Actually the equivalent of the LE5-10 in my L150s), but still slightly behind the 104H-2 IMO. You can use them for. Mar 2, 2017 · JBL strangely did this with some of their otherwise best consumer speakers - Look at the Performance Series for example. The 4412 differs from the later 4412A version in that the 4412 has the 035TI or 035TIa tweeter & midrange/tweeter level adjustment pots. Nov 26, 2019 · A most excellent and well balanced speaker. I have been entertaining the idea of getting some big Caliber JBL Speakers but am unsure if I should invest in L200s. The original L100/4310/4311/4312 had no electrical low pass, and a specific woofer and alignment that gave that "west coast" boost in the bass. As a 4 way, I think they are more cohesive, and the 035ti tweeter bests the slot. 0 x 10. It turns out the L100 Classic is an excellent speaker and held its own quite well against the Revel. I couldn't understand what all the fuss about. Jul 13, 2020 · REVEL F226Be vs. Aug 3, 2006 · This thread started out in dollars and sense where I was bragging on my snag of a nice pair of JBL L-88P at the local thrift shop. Compared them modified vs original (L vs R) and was very happy with surprising and satisfying improvement. If the question becomes L112 vs. Since the 166 is a 3 way bookshelf from the same era, is it right to apply the blanket statement that the 166 JBL put metal domes in the L96 and clones but the paper tweets in the L100 clones till they came to their senses at some point and put metal domes in some of the rest. No veneer. The tech manuals are dated a year apart so who's to say how consistent any measurements were. 5mm ( 25. 3-way Design; 1" Dome Tweeter; 5. This is mostly due to the crossover. The L100T3 uses the same midrange and tweeter that a number of other JBLs use, including the 4412 studio monitor which is highly praised and was so popular in recording studios that the 4412A version was still sold new all the way up until 2006! In this section, we are going to compare JBL L52 Classic's and JBL L100 Classic's external dimensions. Alligevel kribler det i mig når jeg indimellem ser et sæt 4412'ere til salg. Sound Jun 1, 2012 · The L110's are a slightly earlier rendition of the 3 way/ 10" woofer arrangement in a 4412/ L100 size box. Home. on the l100's if the price is right for you ,grab them ,i think ,for the most part they go for way to much on epay. You can use them either way but it does make a difference. I may give the L100s another Jan 10, 2020 · I have extensive experience with the earlier-generation JBL 4410 and 4412. The build quality is classic JBL. They were mid-sized floor-standing speakers - although JBL refers to them as "bookshelf". It's a completely new speaker milking an old well-known name. I love the jubals though, I trade between these two in my bedroom system. East Coast, etc. La paire d'enceintes JBL L100 Classic est un modèle 3 voies reprenant les codes des modèles vintage de la marque. 0mm ( 13-1/16 x 7-13/16 x 8-11/16inch) whereas JBL L100 Classic has external dimensions of 636. Mar 17, 2012 · 4312A has the 035Ti tweeter, along with 4412. The HPM was designed by an ex-JBL guy and was targeted right at the L100. Jun 17, 2020 · Been waiting with bated breath, as I’m experiencing a similar conundrum: upgrade my JBL 4311s (same as L-100) to vintage 4411/L-112 or 4412 control monitors; or just buy modern Studio 580s, 590s, or maybe even 530s with a subwoofer. 5k. A PT-800 mated to a PS-1400 is, and I will hear profanities in my direction, better than a 250 Ti. kaliph11 Super Member. I listen mostly to 80's music, modern and SOME hiphop or electronics. 6 x 14. Thread starter asmneto; Start date Mar 15, 2014; A. Also, 4412 has walnut veneer/blue grill; 4412A black cabinet/black grill. The 4415 was far too serious, too "dull" When switched to the 4412, I was blluffé by its pure and natural! Oct 30, 2024 · Original JBL L100 Century Loudspeakers. It is the same sound signature found in speakers like the L100 Actual JBL Studio Monitors, such as the 4412, have a flat response curve. Unless you're just in a hurry, why not wait for a pair of the 4412/A? The difference is between a control monitor with intentional coloration and a studio monitor with flatter response and deeper bass. The L110 certainly has a more neutral sound, maybe not as much as a Studio Monitor, and the L110 should still have that "west coast sound" for the most part, but the difference is still substantial. Mar 20, 2024 · This is has always made me curious. Apr 23, 2008 · I know the basic cosmetic differances between the 4312 and 4311 but overall. You might have better luck getting info on the professionally-oriented but nearly identical 4312G rather than the L100 Classic. Apr 4, 2018 · The 4312s were designed to have as flat a frequency response as possible, while the L100s were "voiced" for the consumer market, with a bit of that built-in frequency response "smile," i. 12-inch (300mm) 3-way Bookshelf Loudspeaker. Feb 7, 2021 · The L166 had a more balanced sound than the L100. The L-Pads can be noisy and troublesome at this age, but other than that (and the tweeter's foam internal damper turning to goo) there isn't much to worry about. I have 4412's but have not heard the "A"'s. all below that of the L100. 4312's used an aluminum tweeter full of THD. They are not terrible but I am not personally a fan of paper-cone tweeters. IMO. Jeg har et sæt 4408'ere her ved mit skrivebord og superglad for dem. JBL L100 Classic's Five-way gold-plated binding posts terminals Physical Specs . Oct 3, 2006 · The L100 Classic really has nothing in common with the 4310/4311/4312 variants or any of the old L100 variants. 25" Midrange; 12" Pulp Woofer; 40-40k Hz Frequency Response; 90 dB Sensitivity; Impedance: 4ohms Dec 14, 2019 · The only JBL monitor I recall that uses the 2214H, which is a very good woofer, is the 4425 which uses a BiRadial horn and compression driver for the mid and top end. Apr 21, 2009 · I have some l65 jubals, JBL l-5's, JBL L-1's and a pair of econowave pro (ish) speakers. One of the things that makes the L100 better (IMO) is the addition of tone controls so you can adjust the response to suit your taste based on the program material you are Feb 25, 2020 · This article will be an overview of the three different major versions of the JBL L-100 speakers, also known as the L-100 Century speaker. mamlinar New Member. Can a JBL enthusiest explain the tonal differences between the L26, which I am familiar with, to the 36 and 100. Mar 6, 2012 · JBL L100 vs Yamaha NS-1000M I'm newbie on this forum. jlovda; May 19, 2022; Speakers; Replies 1 Views 425. " JBL 4311 vs L100 original. (There are also towers on a different page). The L100 is a bad design due to the crossover network being poorly designed. L100 Classic. One of the things that makes the L100 better (IMO) is the addition of tone controls so you can adjust the response to suit your taste based on the program material you are Oct 26, 2019 · Odd ball speaker. Dec 24, 2020 · In other words, JBL was built on pro sound, which brings us to the story of the 4412 studio monitor, a mid-’80s evolution of the 4300 Series monitor that became a staple in recording studios, following the late-60’s success of the 4310 and 4311, the model on which the legendary L-100 consumer speaker is based. Buy them in a heartbeat! they sell anywhere from 200 to 1000 EUR/USD depending the condition of the cabinet and the drivers. Most of the online reviews I have read were positive. Wester; Jan 31, 2011; Speakers; Replies 9 Views 13K. They will have a much more "polite" sound than the KG4's. It's almost certainly a better speaker in just about every way, but with a $4000 MSRP, it better be good Jun 10, 2005 · The 4311 was the speaker that allowed JBL to corner the professional monitor market. Reply reply BlackfeatherRS Oct 26, 2019 · Odd ball speaker. They clearly are not in the same league as JBL. I always wanted the NS-1000M but never heard them live and also cannot be found in my country. I have pretty much ruled out the 590s due to space constraints, but didn’t act on the recent sales on the 580s. 0 x 15. In 1970, JBL released the iconic L100 Loudspeaker. For good reasons JBL only kept the L-100 in production for 1 year in 1970 and then the much improved L-100a had its run from 1971-1979 becoming JBL's top selling speaker ever. Thread starter seacliffe301; Start date Feb 14, 2010; At my office I use a pair of 4412's. It was successful in emulating that sound signature, however, that sound signature is hardly flat. Sep 9, 2016 · Mine came with a big JBL amplifier for about twice that. The L96 seems less influenced by placement issues. Unlike the L-series, the pro monitors were designed as mirror-image pairs. Today, a solid pair of original L100’s sells for between $1,500 and $2,000. Good converters and good amplification can have an impact on the sound quality. The hpm 100 vs jbl L100(the ones pictured are 4311 close enough). If Sep 15, 2018 · No contest, JBL all the way. Nov 24, 2018 · First is the 4312A, second is the 4312 and third is the L100. The other Harman brands are even messier like DBX and Crown. But, I haven't heard the Wharfedale. But I also agree the 4312G is a viable lower cost alternative to the new L100 "classic". JBL L100 Classic's Five-way gold-plated binding posts terminals Cabinet Type and Port Position. Jan 7, 2015 · That is right! I have found a pair of clean and in good order JBL L200 Studio Masters for sale in my general area and I can get them for around 950. JBL L100 Classic's front-firing port gives more flexibility in placement in regards to proximity to walls compared to KEF R3 Meta with its rear-firing port. A post from user Porkbunkiller sparked considerable discussion, updating prior thoughts after incorporating a proper subwoofer into his listening sessions. This continued until JBL developed their musical instrument series speakers which used ¼” jacks. In this section, we are going to compare KLH Model Five's and JBL L100 Classic's external dimensions. The 4410 was low in the low and seemed to lack chest. 0 x 221. The L36 as "The leader of the Decade family". In this section, we are going to compare Klipsch Heresy IV's and JBL L100 Classic's external dimensions. 5mm deeper than KEF Q150. Mar 25, 2009 · I disagree. I'd say both are suitable to your needs, the 10" delivers deep tight bass, doesn't go quite as low as the 4412 but retains all the dynamics and slam. The primary difference between the L100 and 4311B is the position of the woofer+mid+tweeter and the infamous L100 foam grille vs. It came right after the 4311 that had a log run. Mar 14, 2021 · Looks like I'll be picking up a mid period pair of L100's soon. Wester; Jan 31, 2011; Speakers; Replies 9 Aug 15, 2007 · JBL Models left to right- 4311, L-100a, L-100, 4310 The L-100 was very different from the L-100a which was a return to the original 1968 design of the 4310 studio monitor. Very nice mid-range. The L100 Classic doesn't have anything in common with the L100 other than the fact that it's a 3-way with a JBL logo on the box. In some ways, the new version’s biggest competitor may be its progenitor. cloth. Beautiful walnu cabs with the walnut/cloth grills. Aug 11, 2014 · that is, the 4412, among other JBLs, is a 'negative' design (per JBL's own terminology) meaning that when the speakers are connected the right way (positive speaker O/P on the amp going to the red terminal on the speaker) the woofer on a thumpy switch-on goes inward - so far so good, and pretty easy to check whether things work OK or not. The JBL L100 Classics were measured in free-air at a height of 7. 0mm ( 11. i have jbl l100's,4312's,4311b's and l100t's. im considering a pair of jbl 4312 or 4311 to alternate with my ls3/5a. The cabinets in the 4400 series used (IMO) cheaper fasteners for the drivers, of course the walnut veneer on the earlier ones was better looking than the laminated plastic exterior of the 4400s, and most problematic was the cheap plastic frames on the grilles, most of these have pegs broken and some even Jul 22, 2006 · All are of the same general vintage, and image was hardly JBL's specialty at that time. Mar 6, 2016 · The 4312 is a "Control Monitor", a descendant of the old L100/4310, which was mostly built to emulate the even older Altec 604e in the studio. They have the original covers and are supposed to be in good working condition. With this article i hope to shed some light over the differences in components Jul 3, 2009 · JBL 4312 vs L100 vs L88p (2 way) Thread starter rpampt; Start date Jul 3, 2009; JBL L100 vs L88P. All of the JBL 4300 and later 4400 range were marketed as studio monitors. Their 44xx series was for studio use and is fantastic. And if you got the L100's, the Japanese just go bonkers over the things if they are in nice shape. The 4412 uses the 035Ti tweeter. If the price is the same, the NS-1000 is a no brainer. JBL L100 Classic MKII is clearly the larger of the two speakers. 이 해가 JBL 창업 75주년에 해당하는 만큼, 뭔가 기념작이 필요했던 터. The in-line L100 does image pretty well because of the in-line configuration. The L-100s are rolled off in the highs, and a lot of people complain of boomy bass, they were manufactured and marketed as a rock-n-roll speaker, and fill this Apr 25, 2011 · The 4412 and 4412A were configured for horizontal placement while the 4410/A were designed for vertical placement. We are proud to bring you the JBL L100 Classic, a modern take on a time-honored legend. Apr 12, 2008 · When I purchased the Advents 30 years ago, I remember not being impressed with the L100 but liked the L26s. im currently using ls3/5a rated at 15ohms. May 28, 2006 · mr b. Small distinction perhaps, but just like with the L100 vs L100T, the name being similar means nothing. Basically the same size(the L100 is a few pounds heavier), same size drivers(the L100 tweet is 1/4" bigger), and similar crossover points(4312E 2kHz/5kHz;L100 early was 2. as one who has made use of his wonderious skills in the past,check with member GORDON W on the recone. Here is some official JBL literature which I think explains the differences between Control Monitors (such as the 4310, 4311, and L100) and Studio Monitors (such as the 4410A) pretty well. The L5's, I think are very much better in many ways. Jun 11, 2014 · The 4411 uses the 044 and is very similar to the consumer L112. It has been produced in several versions over the years, so it is well possible to find slightly different midrange and tweeter placements. That is, if you are actually using the 4412A's in a studio and know what you are doing, the room enviornment would be built as optimally as possible, and some room EQ would be judiciously applied. That is rather high. 6mm wider, 333. L112 and L96, not so much, though they are JBL Professional Model Number Listing: updated: Oct 2020 47. greybeige; Jan 18, 2010 Feb 16, 2015 · The first 4310 was released to emulate the large Altec 604 speakers which were then standard in the industry. Feb 3, 2011 · The 4412 is a pro studio monitor, and are very flat in response, or (uncolored). Efficient vs non efficient, West Coast sound vs. Super Member. I flipped them, but before I did I did take them for a spin. The JBL L100 Classic is a worthy successor to the original L100A Century speaker, derived from the 4310 Studio Monitor; The variable midrange and treble level-dials allow matching to the room; The white paper cone woofer scores serious reminiscence points for previous L100 owners; Beautiful walnut veneer cabinets Aug 4, 2022 · JBL had so much faith in the 128H that they used it in the 4412 and 4412A studio monitors, with the 4412A being sold up until ~2006 or so. I could compare in the local JBL 4410, 4412 and 4415. Harman had good sizes and crap sizes within the same line (305 good and 308 wtf midrange happened across the entire JBL brand). GSWarriors New Member. It's been generally accepted there were four versions of the L100, JBL added and dropped the "Century" moniker at will throughout the line (and others. I think the L100 Classic is a great speaker and the designer is brilliant. Jul 29, 2019 · The L100 is definitely not the consumer version of the 4410 or 4411, as the 4410 and 4411 are both Studio Monitors. The L80t/t3 and L100t/t3's are however undervalued compared to some others like the L100, so they are actually a great buy. If you want a decent JBL, gotta move up to the 44XX series or the L series. Mar 6, 2012 · JBL paper mid and tweeter are not in the same ballpark as the Beryllium domes found in the NS-1000. Feb 22, 2020 · JBL's product line is getting even worse due to Samsung. 4 inch) whereas JBL L100 Classic has external dimensions of 636. Thread starter nrap; Start date Oct 18, 2012; nrap Active Member. Thread starter Rob. I also may have a line on Apr 21, 2016 · Since the speakers you're looking at are already the T3 version, you should already be good to go. Elle se révèle véritablement sublime avec son plaquage en bois véritable et ses grilles en mousse Quadrex. they are all wonderful. After spending many hours in auditoriums in my area, I found the local dealer of JBL. The JBL were beautiful too but I think the 500M's bass sounds better with 12" woofers instead of JBL's 10". It then morphed into a discussion of JBL history surrounding this speaker and related models and variations like the L-88, L-88P (mine) and the infamous L-100, which was targeted by Pioneer's HMP-100. Jun 10, 2012 · Because they aren't cheap, they were over $1000 new in the later 80's, and they are not very easy to find. I don't personally care for the paper cone tweeters, but there are plenty who do. Wharfedale Dovedale has external dimensions of 660 x 370 x 417mm ( 23. Over the years, the L100 became the bestselling loudspeaker in JBL’s history. jblnut Dec 25, 2011 · It's actually stunning how much less bass my 4412 speakers had compared to my L150 speakers, despite them using essentially the same woofers (128H vs 128H-1, main difference being the color of the cone). Now, JBL is taking things a step further with the latest version by updating the crossover and drivers, but keeping the heart and soul of what made the L100 a legend in the Jun 9, 2006 · The 4312c was pretty much just the consumer version of the JBL-Pro 4312a. In this time window, some resolution is lost below 250 Hz and accuracy is completely lost below 110 Hz. The 4412 and 4410 cabinet are the exact same size Jul 7, 2021 · And as others have said they're definitely not the "same" speaker as the old L100. The use of these jacks required that JBL change their polarity to fit into what had become industry standards. Dec 16, 2024 · In the vibrant world of audiophiles, the debate between the JBL L100 Classics and the Klipsch Heresy IV is a hot topic. They are located in my hometown so Aug 18, 2016 · JBL 4412 is a very interesting choice to be the center channel speaker for JBL 120Ti mains, since they should sound the same (well at least their frequency response curves are very similar to each other). . There are some very elaborate crossover projects on the internet to upgrade them, which I used as guidelines, but then simplified. Admittedly, I didn't spend that much time with the L100 and my recollection may be a bit faulty. Improvements have been made to them,yet they tried to keep some of the vintage "appeal" from the original L100. Do yourself a favor and check the foam under the tweeter Apr 25, 2013 · L80T is going to use the 104H-2, same as many other very well respected speakers such as the 4412 Studio Monitors. Jan 10, 2015 · I have a few sets of JBL speakers including the L-100 Century. Because of this dominance, JBL decided to create a home version and cash in on the 4311's popularity and the L100 was born. I believe that the L100 and members of the 4311/4312 family would represent "a step up". also on heavy bass drum songs, speakers wont be able to play at optimum volume. Thread starter GSWarriors; Start date Jan 3, 2006; G. tceg rotfsg mkhmps knxws fdkau rjojnd qwl dozhup azpom mgtty